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Post by PeterL on May 26, 2014 8:06:26 GMT
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Post by Ned Long on May 26, 2014 15:14:12 GMT
I'm not sure yet what to make of it all. It is undeniably a stunning performance for a fairly new party with basically one policy...leaving the E.U. But it is a strange dichotomy. Here we have a party dedicated to leaving the E.U., which now has the biggest number of MP's sitting in the parliament belonging to that organisation. As for the reasons for their success; that seems fairly obvious. The two main parties are, with the odd exception, Europhiles to the core, and in this they are completely out of sync. with the majority opinion of the man in the street. There is a lot of resentment out there, and the voters saw a chance to give Cameron, and Miliband a bloody nose. Whether the voters will return to the main parties come the general election, or stay with UKIP, is uncertain. My own view, for what it is worth, is that some (perhaps the majority) will, but certainly not all.
That leaves the conservatives, and Labour a problem they can no longer ignore. If UKIP hang on to their support, they can prevent either party from getting an overall majority, for UKIP is now pulling in support from supporters of both parties. Both have intimated that they will NOT enter a coalition with the Liberals; although the way things are going in THAT area, there will be nobody to coalesce with, and in that case we could end up with government by a minority parliament, where the party with the most seats (probably Labour) will attempt to govern without an overall majority. It is possible, but it makes them a hostage to fortune, and forces grubby back-room deals as they try to elicit support for their policies and remain in power.
IMO the best thing for the conservatives would be to do a deal with Farage. I know that both Cameron AND Farage have said they will not, but a week is a long time in politics, and it could be mutually beneficial with the right mind set. There is still a year to go to the general election. Time enough for a little pragmatism, methinks!
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Post by PeterL on May 27, 2014 21:34:14 GMT
IMO the best thing for the conservatives would be to do a deal with Farage. I know that both Cameron AND Farage have said they will not, but a week is a long time in politics, and it could be mutually beneficial with the right mind set. There is still a year to go to the general election. Time enough for a little pragmatism, methinks! I think if the Consertivitives and Farage can agree to do a deal before the General Election that would put the conservatories very much odds on favourites to win Whereas at the moment it looks as if Labour could very well do so Which would mean if they did Good by to any hopes of having a referendum To say nothing of the mess they would undoubtedly get the country into
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